Riot gun versions of the Model 1. I did take some pics of them standing next to some Purdey matched sets. I shot a 23 pound gobbler with my 12ga M12. Back when Simmons and Winchester had their relationship the Simmons version was not transferred. And special thanks to Torquem for referring me to someone who knows more about these Model 12s than Winchester does.Next
Hello, I have a friend who has several Winchester 70. Please include first 4 digits of serial t00. She sits next to my Mannlicher-Schoenauer 1952 30. The early 20 gauge Model 12 guns had chambers that were 2. I was lucky to see 2 Wincherster Model 21's custom made for Ernie Simmons still in the factory boxes several months ago.Next
Ernie Simmons rib model 12's while not installed New Haven has never been accepted by Collectors which has been a mistake. Winnie has grease on the threads of the nut, they became hard over the years and the forearm nut hard to remove causing dents in the forearm nut slot when removed. I was told this would be early to mid 80s. Hey A5 I pulled the recoil pad off and this one doesnt have lead in it. Beautiful gun with a Trijicon 3-9x 40 scope attached. I didn't say you made anything up, Don.Next
The Simmons version did not have the offset proof mark. Matching serial numbers are relatively easy to make, well within the capabilities of Simmons, and proof marks are easy to add to the barrel after the rib was installed. No, I have not heard that Pennybob, but that is interesting. It was as good as I remembered it. Yes, three 3 pin rib, No Y in serial number and to the best of my knowledge Y models were 12ga.
My Great Grandfather bought the 16ga M-12 I have in 1920 and gave it to my Grandfather when he got married in 1937. By the late 1950s, Winchester installed their own Vent Ribs. Each cut bleeds constitutional rights to control you. Ernie Simmons ran Ads in shooting sports magazines of that era and produced several catalogs that are very rare as you couldn't tell the difference of the models from a factory catalog. Seeking info on the fine points of the venerable Winchester Model 12. It makes for a better clays or bird gun. Boosey clarinet serial numbers; Jupiter oboe serial number; Civil war carbine serial numbers; Schwinn varsity serial number year; Selmer.Next
Comments and opinions very welcome. The work was transferred from production to the Custom Gun Shop like the model 21's were in 1959. Quick Winchester Model 94 Facts: Weight 6. I'm trying to establish if it is original. Checkering appears to be pre-war as well. According to Winchester it was built in 1969, what do you think? It's not a good idea to post your serial number online and folks can still help you date the rifle knowing the number of digits. Ernie also sold these rib model 12's out of his shop and traveled to shoots to market his ribs too.
I dont know if this is field grade or what. During the Korean War, the Marines used the Model 1. With Winchester in the mess they are in I'm not even sure there would be anyone there who could help. I think I replaced a spring or two maybe 10 years ago but thats it. Johnson, and was based in part on the M1. One of my Winchesters is a Classic Sporter,.
They stopped making the Model 12 not becauee the design was out-dated. The Navy similarly purchased and used the riot gun version for protecting Navy ships and personnel while in foreign ports. The 3 diamond rib has side panel on each side with smaller diamond on bottim 18 lines per inch. My hand me down Wingmaster may be getting a break. After you get it, post it in the Winchester collectors forum here.Next
All model 12s of this era had Nickel. I know about original condition, and the general check list of what to look for. It has an extended forearm with 2 diamond-shaped patterns checkered into the bottom of it. That and its 6- shot capacity made it effective for close- combat. The wood is another thing to consider when looking for a original New Haven gun.Next
If a parts clean up gun, should have a 3 pin rib, skeet target style wood, hard butt, red front bead from production period 1961-1964. I sure don't remember Tony getting in on any internet discussion about Model 21 serial numbers. But that doesn't mean yours isn't a good one. Canfield, American Rifleman, May 2. Adobe Reader is available free from Adobe.Next